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		<title>By: Steve O</title>
		<link>http://www.mattandnancy.org/matts-external-brain/mr-haggard-speaks-out/#comment-4511</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Nov 2006 05:23:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To be honest when I read the review of Jesus Camp in Toons where it mentions that Ted Haggard make some jokes on homosexuality to little kids I was rather annoyed.  I wasn't surprised (much) when I heard that he supposedly had engaged in some homosexual acts.  Typically, in my understanding, when we hate something with a passion its because of either fear/lack of understanding or personal insecurity in that area.

Although I'm sorry that his sin had to be uncovered in such a love-lacking manner, I am overjoyed that he has not this be a stumbling block for him.

The lessen you can take from something like this is not that Ted Haggard is an especially terrible person, but rather that we all have our blindspots and places where we cover our shame in hurt and anger.  The sooner that we let go of the anger and bring ourselves where our dirt can be seen... the sooner we shall be made clean.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be honest when I read the review of Jesus Camp in Toons where it mentions that Ted Haggard make some jokes on homosexuality to little kids I was rather annoyed.  I wasn&#8217;t surprised (much) when I heard that he supposedly had engaged in some homosexual acts.  Typically, in my understanding, when we hate something with a passion its because of either fear/lack of understanding or personal insecurity in that area.</p>
<p>Although I&#8217;m sorry that his sin had to be uncovered in such a love-lacking manner, I am overjoyed that he has not this be a stumbling block for him.</p>
<p>The lessen you can take from something like this is not that Ted Haggard is an especially terrible person, but rather that we all have our blindspots and places where we cover our shame in hurt and anger.  The sooner that we let go of the anger and bring ourselves where our dirt can be seen&#8230; the sooner we shall be made clean.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Haggard Speaks - Matt and Nancy Heerema - Matt Heerema : Web Design</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. Haggard Speaks - Matt and Nancy Heerema - Matt Heerema : Web Design</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Nov 2006 05:06:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I don&#8217;t often cross my blogs, but I wrote some of my thoughts on the Ted Haggard situation. Thought I would share. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I don&#8217;t often cross my blogs, but I wrote some of my thoughts on the Ted Haggard situation. Thought I would share. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Nov 2006 03:59:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fixed the comment.  Ya, I tend to not censor comments.  I was just feeling a bit knee-jerky and sensitive earlier.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fixed the comment.  Ya, I tend to not censor comments.  I was just feeling a bit knee-jerky and sensitive earlier.</p>
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		<title>By: nate</title>
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		<dc:creator>nate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Nov 2006 20:44:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ps.  wow that quote got screwed up (at least in safari it goes like 3 feet to the left).  if you can edit quotes, will you fix that matt?  

pps.  matt, i'm glad you posted this and i'm glad you didn't delete prince's post.  diversity is a beautiful thing :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ps.  wow that quote got screwed up (at least in safari it goes like 3 feet to the left).  if you can edit quotes, will you fix that matt?  </p>
<p>pps.  matt, i&#8217;m glad you posted this and i&#8217;m glad you didn&#8217;t delete prince&#8217;s post.  diversity is a beautiful thing :)</p>
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		<title>By: nate</title>
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		<dc:creator>nate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Nov 2006 20:42:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Prince,

You're right about it being insane.  Consider 1 Corinthians 2:6-16

&gt; "We do, however, speak a message of wisdom among the mature, but not the wisdom of this age or of the rulers of this age, who are coming to nothing. No, we speak of God's secret wisdom, a wisdom that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began. None of the rulers of this age understood it, for if they had, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.  However, as it is written: 
&gt; 
&gt; 'No eye has seen,   
&gt; no ear has heard,   
&gt; no mind has conceived   
&gt; what God has prepared for those who love him' - but God has revealed it to us by his Spirit.   
&gt; 
&gt; The Spirit searches all things, even the deep things of God.  For who among men knows the thoughts of a man except the man's spirit within him? In the same way no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God.  We have not received the spirit of the world but the Spirit who is from God, that we may understand what God has freely given us. This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom but in words taught by the Spirit, expressing spiritual truths in spiritual words.  The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned.  The spiritual man makes judgments about all things, but he himself is not subject to any man's judgment: 
&gt; 
&gt; 'For who has known the mind of the Lord   
&gt; that he may instruct him?'  
&gt; But we have the mind of Christ."  

Prince, if you can "get" the above passage, you'll "get" why Christians are so quick to forgive and weep at the sadness of the situation, and even to rejoice at Ted's humility, confession and repentance.  Until you "get" that, this will naturally be insane thinking to you.  You're not weird, you just don't "get" it yet.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Prince,</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right about it being insane.  Consider 1 Corinthians 2:6-16</p>
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<p>&#8220;We do, however, speak a message of wisdom among the mature, but not the wisdom of this age or of the rulers of this age, who are coming to nothing. No, we speak of God&#8217;s secret wisdom, a wisdom that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began. None of the rulers of this age understood it, for if they had, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.  However, as it is written: </p>
<p>&#8216;No eye has seen,<br />
  no ear has heard,<br />
  no mind has conceived<br />
  what God has prepared for those who love him&#8217; - but God has revealed it to us by his Spirit.   </p>
<p>The Spirit searches all things, even the deep things of God.  For who among men knows the thoughts of a man except the man&#8217;s spirit within him? In the same way no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God.  We have not received the spirit of the world but the Spirit who is from God, that we may understand what God has freely given us. This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom but in words taught by the Spirit, expressing spiritual truths in spiritual words.  The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned.  The spiritual man makes judgments about all things, but he himself is not subject to any man&#8217;s judgment: </p>
<p>&#8216;For who has known the mind of the Lord<br />
  that he may instruct him?&#8217;<br />
  But we have the mind of Christ.&#8221;  </p>
</blockquote>
<p>Prince, if you can &#8220;get&#8221; the above passage, you&#8217;ll &#8220;get&#8221; why Christians are so quick to forgive and weep at the sadness of the situation, and even to rejoice at Ted&#8217;s humility, confession and repentance.  Until you &#8220;get&#8221; that, this will naturally be insane thinking to you.  You&#8217;re not weird, you just don&#8217;t &#8220;get&#8221; it yet.  :)</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Nov 2006 19:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Prince, I'm tempted to delete your comment.  Do you know anything about Ted Haggard? Or are you buying what you want to believe about him.

Yes he lied (by omission) about his actions, but tell me, prince, what did he teach that has now been contradicted by his admission of guilt in this area?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Prince, I&#8217;m tempted to delete your comment.  Do you know anything about Ted Haggard? Or are you buying what you want to believe about him.</p>
<p>Yes he lied (by omission) about his actions, but tell me, prince, what did he teach that has now been contradicted by his admission of guilt in this area?</p>
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		<title>By: prince</title>
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		<dc:creator>prince</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Nov 2006 19:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this guy is a liar and deciever.  why would anyone shed a tear for someone who has been misleading thousands and potentially millions of people?  

it's a shame that people are so brainwashed by modern christianity that they can't see the damage it does.

ted would be a much happier man if he came out of the closet and became the gay man that he is.  as for his wife, jesus she needs therapy.  how could you stay with a man who has secretly been sucking cock and taking it in the ass for three years - all while high on meth?

insanity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this guy is a liar and deciever.  why would anyone shed a tear for someone who has been misleading thousands and potentially millions of people?  </p>
<p>it&#8217;s a shame that people are so brainwashed by modern christianity that they can&#8217;t see the damage it does.</p>
<p>ted would be a much happier man if he came out of the closet and became the gay man that he is.  as for his wife, jesus she needs therapy.  how could you stay with a man who has secretly been sucking cock and taking it in the ass for three years - all while high on meth?</p>
<p>insanity.</p>
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		<title>By: Marcia Keel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marcia Keel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Nov 2006 18:59:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to say I am really saddened about all of this.  But my joy is in the fact that he actually admitted to his sin, and unlike many of pastors I have seen on  TBN and other places apologized and asked for forgiveness!!!! I went to a church where the pastor actually threatened the congregation if we spoke of his alleged incedent again!! (There was a tape in his instance proving his acts. )  


I want the forgiveness of God for my own sin, so I am in no position to not forgive anyone!!! He deserves our prayer and not our condemnation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say I am really saddened about all of this.  But my joy is in the fact that he actually admitted to his sin, and unlike many of pastors I have seen on  TBN and other places apologized and asked for forgiveness!!!! I went to a church where the pastor actually threatened the congregation if we spoke of his alleged incedent again!! (There was a tape in his instance proving his acts. )  </p>
<p>I want the forgiveness of God for my own sin, so I am in no position to not forgive anyone!!! He deserves our prayer and not our condemnation.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Nov 2006 18:33:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Donny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Donny.</p>
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		<title>By: Donny Pauling</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donny Pauling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Nov 2006 18:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the &lt;a href="http://www.donnysramblings.com/2006/11/ted-haggard-and-christian-response.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;blog entry I wrote today about this Ted Haggard story&lt;/a&gt; you'll find a few more of the people we should forgive...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the <a href="http://www.donnysramblings.com/2006/11/ted-haggard-and-christian-response.html" rel="nofollow">blog entry I wrote today about this Ted Haggard story</a> you&#8217;ll find a few more of the people we should forgive&#8230;</p>
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