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	<title>Comments on: Faith Is Not a Choice</title>
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		<title>By: mheerema</title>
		<link>http://www.mattandnancy.org/faith/faith-is-not-a-choice/comment-page-1/#comment-8832</link>
		<dc:creator>mheerema</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 19:55:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Interesting perspective on the &quot;feeling&quot; piece.  What is it that gives you that idea?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting perspective on the &quot;feeling&quot; piece.  What is it that gives you that idea?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Religious</title>
		<link>http://www.mattandnancy.org/faith/faith-is-not-a-choice/comment-page-1/#comment-8723</link>
		<dc:creator>Religious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 08:21:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Well i think Faith is not something superficial it more of a feeling that comes from within and at tht moment you knw its for real ...sometimes its in the form of a conviction other times its an assurance&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well i think Faith is not something superficial it more of a feeling that comes from within and at tht moment you knw its for real &#8230;sometimes its in the form of a conviction other times its an assurance</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: John Burdine</title>
		<link>http://www.mattandnancy.org/faith/faith-is-not-a-choice/comment-page-1/#comment-8700</link>
		<dc:creator>John Burdine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 19:07:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Matt, your perspective was long my suspicion, and awhile ago I came across someone else who agreed, Dallas Willard.  he put it this way in The Renovation of The Heart (pg248)
&quot;One of the worst mistakes that can be made in practical ministry is to think that people can choose to believe and feel differently. Following that, we will mistakenly try to generate faith by going through the will...rather we (our will) must be moved by insight into truth and reality. ... We never CHOOSE to believe... We CAN choose to turn our minds toward these (biblical) truths. Belief will come as God&#039;s gift within the hidden depths of our life and will grow under the nurturing of the Word and the Spirit.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;A little thought experiment confirms this...try to choose to believe the sun won&#039;t rise tomorrow. No matter how hard you grit your teeth, you cant choose to believe something like that unless you brainwash yourself with somewhat convincing information that the sun indeed won&#039;t rise tomorrow.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt, your perspective was long my suspicion, and awhile ago I came across someone else who agreed, Dallas Willard.  he put it this way in The Renovation of The Heart (pg248)
&#8220;One of the worst mistakes that can be made in practical ministry is to think that people can choose to believe and feel differently. Following that, we will mistakenly try to generate faith by going through the will&#8230;rather we (our will) must be moved by insight into truth and reality. &#8230; We never CHOOSE to believe&#8230; We CAN choose to turn our minds toward these (biblical) truths. Belief will come as God&#8217;s gift within the hidden depths of our life and will grow under the nurturing of the Word and the Spirit.&#8221;</p>

<p>A little thought experiment confirms this&#8230;try to choose to believe the sun won&#8217;t rise tomorrow. No matter how hard you grit your teeth, you cant choose to believe something like that unless you brainwash yourself with somewhat convincing information that the sun indeed won&#8217;t rise tomorrow.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Lesley</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 17:37:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I left this comment on FB but will leave it here too...Okay, the title intrigued me...right, faith isn&#039;t necessarily tangible except that what is produces may be. Or lack of faith in contrast. Sort of like you mentioning &#039;belief&#039;. You could go further and say faith is trust. It is a growing &#039;thing&#039; like belief and trust are. The better you know someone the more trust you have in them as well as ... Read Morefaith and belief because of who you discern them to be. Or lack of faith, trust and belief because of the same discernment. There is varying degrees of each? &quot;Ye of little faith...&quot; &quot;My good and faithful servant&quot;...&quot;But without faith it is impossible to please Him&quot;...&quot;...“Because of your unbelief;&quot;...&quot;Your faith has made you well&quot;...&quot;and purified by faith in Me&quot;&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I left this comment on FB but will leave it here too&#8230;Okay, the title intrigued me&#8230;right, faith isn&#8217;t necessarily tangible except that what is produces may be. Or lack of faith in contrast. Sort of like you mentioning &#8216;belief&#8217;. You could go further and say faith is trust. It is a growing &#8216;thing&#8217; like belief and trust are. The better you know someone the more trust you have in them as well as &#8230; Read Morefaith and belief because of who you discern them to be. Or lack of faith, trust and belief because of the same discernment. There is varying degrees of each? &#8220;Ye of little faith&#8230;&#8221; &#8220;My good and faithful servant&#8221;&#8230;&#8221;But without faith it is impossible to please Him&#8221;&#8230;&#8221;&#8230;“Because of your unbelief;&#8221;&#8230;&#8221;Your faith has made you well&#8221;&#8230;&#8221;and purified by faith in Me&#8221;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Matt Heerema</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Heerema</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 16:59:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;TJ, Agree.  I&#039;d put it this way.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;As we trust (and thus obey), we find that the thing which we are believeing/faithing is true.  (God&#039;s word doesn&#039;t fail us.)  And so our belief/faith is reinforced, or, in a sense, proven.  As in scientific repetitive testing, the more times a thing is proven, the more bold we become in asserting it.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TJ, Agree.  I&#8217;d put it this way.</p>

<p>As we trust (and thus obey), we find that the thing which we are believeing/faithing is true.  (God&#8217;s word doesn&#8217;t fail us.)  And so our belief/faith is reinforced, or, in a sense, proven.  As in scientific repetitive testing, the more times a thing is proven, the more bold we become in asserting it.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: TJ Lyttle</title>
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		<dc:creator>TJ Lyttle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 16:50:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think your correct that faith is a place we arrive at once we have fumbled around through trials. I think what we do choose is trust. I either have faith or I don&#039;t, but what I think builds faith is the act of trusting God. Every trial we go through is ultimately a test of how much we trust God to be good to us. When we begin to trust God, we stretch our faith and make it stronger. So for me, in a sense, trust is the day to day expression of faith, and faith is my track record of trusting God.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think your correct that faith is a place we arrive at once we have fumbled around through trials. I think what we do choose is trust. I either have faith or I don&#8217;t, but what I think builds faith is the act of trusting God. Every trial we go through is ultimately a test of how much we trust God to be good to us. When we begin to trust God, we stretch our faith and make it stronger. So for me, in a sense, trust is the day to day expression of faith, and faith is my track record of trusting God.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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